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Post by Vampula on Aug 12, 2014 14:09:16 GMT -5
So if you haven't heard ive always wanted to design and sell a tshirt. I was thinking of doing one with all my human zelfs so far, but it most likely will not have the zelfs logo on it. since copyright. it would be around 17$ plus shipping and im pretty sure the site sells worldwide cause a lot of British you tuber's sell shirt on it. What do you guys think? would you buy a tshirt from me?
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Post by Starkle on Aug 13, 2014 7:33:24 GMT -5
Of course I would! But if there's only a few people buying, it might not be worth your time! How many would you make? Apart from the forum, where else could you sell to?? Do you think a print or something other than a t-shirt might be more marketable??? Maybe if you have time to do more art and get yourself noticed on various sites/forums (i don't know if you do this already?) I don't want to sound negative, as I would be all for it, but am thinking from a practical point of view, you'd need to sell quite a few to make your money back in printing them wouldn't you??? (please don't take this as a negative, your art is amazing!!!  ) Didn't you also say you'd like to collaborate with a writer about your comic/story before as well, I would be happy to look at anything you've got! |
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Post by SephXIII on Aug 13, 2014 7:42:53 GMT -5
I think it'd depend on the t-shirt style, but mostly shipping (for me). I would love a spooky one. ^_~
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Post by Vampula on Aug 13, 2014 16:30:58 GMT -5
Of course I would! But if there's only a few people buying, it might not be worth your time! How many would you make? Apart from the forum, where else could you sell to?? Do you think a print or something other than a t-shirt might be more marketable??? Maybe if you have time to do more art and get yourself noticed on various sites/forums (i don't know if you do this already?) I don't want to sound negative, as I would be all for it, but am thinking from a practical point of view, you'd need to sell quite a few to make your money back in printing them wouldn't you??? (please don't take this as a negative, your art is amazing!!! ) Didn't you also say you'd like to collaborate with a writer about your comic/story before as well, I would be happy to look at anything you've got! I wouldent lose much money,I don't think. I'd sell it on a webpage that sells for decent prices and worldwide.so I'm not physically making them. :depressing sigh: Yea I've been on deviantart for like 11 years. I'm not a noticeable artist tho. I just left the site. But I'd like to atleast try, even if I just buy a tshirt for myself. I'd like to have a shirt with my art on it Yea? How'd you hear about that? I wish I knew a writer. I mean how do I know who to trust online :shrugs: But yea I left my art site. I'll probably just post a few zelf art on my fb page from now on. And dedicate my time to my comic art instead of garbage no one cares about. |
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Post by Vampula on Aug 13, 2014 16:33:36 GMT -5
I think it'd depend on the t-shirt style, but mostly shipping (for me). I would love a spooky one. ^_~ Well I know the site I've been looking at sells for decent prices. The shirt would be around 17 usd idk about shipping but I don't think it'd be exspensive. I know British youtubers sell shirts on there. |
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Post by Starkle on Aug 13, 2014 17:00:33 GMT -5
Of course I would! But if there's only a few people buying, it might not be worth your time! How many would you make? Apart from the forum, where else could you sell to?? Do you think a print or something other than a t-shirt might be more marketable??? Maybe if you have time to do more art and get yourself noticed on various sites/forums (i don't know if you do this already?) I don't want to sound negative, as I would be all for it, but am thinking from a practical point of view, you'd need to sell quite a few to make your money back in printing them wouldn't you??? (please don't take this as a negative, your art is amazing!!! ) Didn't you also say you'd like to collaborate with a writer about your comic/story before as well, I would be happy to look at anything you've got! I wouldent lose much money,I don't think. I'd sell it on a webpage that sells for decent prices and worldwide.so I'm not physically making them. :depressing sigh: Yea I've been on deviantart for like 11 years. I'm not a noticeable artist tho. I just left the site. But I'd like to atleast try, even if I just buy a tshirt for myself. I'd like to have a shirt with my art on it Yea? How'd you hear about that? I wish I knew a writer. I mean how do I know who to trust online :shrugs: But yea I left my art site. I'll probably just post a few zelf art on my fb page from now on. And dedicate my time to my comic art instead of garbage no one cares about. Cool. Then sign me up for one as well then!  I really didn't mean to make my post sound so negative! That sucks about DeviantArt, well at least you know you got fans on here! Zelf related or not, I'd be interested in anything really. Creativity is the root of life (well to me anyway, so books, art, stories, drawings, comics, I love it all!) I think you mentioned it in another thread didn't you? I'm a writer myself, I meant to say more clearly but failing epic-ley, I am currently working on a couple of projects - mainly children's books and stories and i have written a couple of short films also, so I'd be happy to help ya, even if its to chat about ideas or such-like! It is extremely difficult to know who to trust online or otherwise, I nearly lost control of one of my films a year or so back, so I know exactly what u mean, and I try to keep my work as secretive as I can until I'm ready to publish. Just PM me if you want more deets! I am always willing to help my fellow visionaries! |
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Post by Vampula on Aug 13, 2014 18:12:07 GMT -5
I wouldent lose much money,I don't think. I'd sell it on a webpage that sells for decent prices and worldwide.so I'm not physically making them. :depressing sigh: Yea I've been on deviantart for like 11 years. I'm not a noticeable artist tho. I just left the site. But I'd like to atleast try, even if I just buy a tshirt for myself. I'd like to have a shirt with my art on it Yea? How'd you hear about that? I wish I knew a writer. I mean how do I know who to trust online :shrugs: But yea I left my art site. I'll probably just post a few zelf art on my fb page from now on. And dedicate my time to my comic art instead of garbage no one cares about. Cool. Then sign me up for one as well then! I really didn't mean to make my post sound so negative! That sucks about DeviantArt, well at least you know you got fans on here! Zelf related or not, I'd be interested in anything really. Creativity is the root of life (well to me anyway, so books, art, stories, drawings, comics, I love it all!)Â I think you mentioned it in another thread didn't you? I'm a writer myself, I meant to say more clearly but failing epic-ley, I am currently working on a couple of projects - mainly children's books and stories and i have written a couple of short films also, so I'd be happy to help ya, even if its to chat about ideas or such-like! It is extremely difficult to know who to trust online or otherwise, I nearly lost control of one of my films a year or so back, so I know exactly what u mean, and I try to keep my work as secretive as I can until I'm ready to publish. Just PM me if you want more deets! I am always willing to help my fellow visionaries! :rolls around in dirt: it's ok the topic of art has just been a really depressing topic recently for me lol It does suck. I used to have a good group of friends on they're. I left the site to work on other things and when I came back (mind u by request of several ppl) no one seemed to want to talk to me. So when u get 0 feedback it makes u kinda not want to post art. Creativity is defiantly life for me,that's why it's been depressing for me lately lol It's not even only about trust but about compatibility. I used to have several ppl I collated with but they moved on to other things. I tried working with 2 different people for my comic but we didn't click D,; Id love to hear more about your projects! Do you have a YouTube with ur film project? |
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Post by Princess Crystella on Aug 13, 2014 18:46:22 GMT -5
Honestly, here's my advice..
If you're going to do art solely for want of feedback, you are going to constantly be disappointed. Feedback is totally great and it's always nice to have, but don't rely on it. There's always going to be folks who are better than you or get more comments than you, ignore all that. The only person you've got to compete with is yourself, so do art for the love of it whether the comments come or not!
That aside, you've said you're not going to put the zelfs logo on your tshirt, but here you're clearly marketing it as a zelfs shirt and making it clear that it's of Moose's characters. They've already made clear that this goes against their policy, so you're risking that if you decide to go through with this. The zelf fandom is nowhere near as large as say, MLP, so it's going to be a lot easier for them to zero in on you if they choose to come down with a Cease & Desist. Just a warning.
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Post by Dragonflitter on Aug 13, 2014 18:59:43 GMT -5
Honestly, here's my advice.. If you're going to do art solely for want of feedback, you are going to constantly be disappointed. Feedback is totally great and it's always nice to have, but don't rely on it. There's always going to be folks who are better than you or get more comments than you, ignore all that. The only person you've got to compete with is yourself, so do art for the love of it whether the comments come or not! That aside, you've said you're not going to put the zelfs logo on your tshirt, but here you're clearly marketing it as a zelfs shirt and making it clear that it's of Moose's characters. They've already made clear that this goes against their policy, so you're risking that if you decide to go through with this. The zelf fandom is nowhere near as large as say, MLP, so it's going to be a lot easier for them to zero in on you if they choose to come down with a Cease & Desist. Just a warning. I agree with everything Pega Sue has said, she said it all very well. *nod* I'm a writer of children's books, and I know from experience that making any kind of art in the hopes of getting feedback is just going to disappoint you. You should draw when YOU feel like you want to produce art, not because you think people will comment on it or because someone is asking you for it. I also agree that paying money for things with copyrighted characters on it isn't a good thing to do. Yes an individual character (like Spooky) is your creation, but the Zelfs themselves are copyright of Moose Inc. It's not fair to take something that someone else has created and charge money for it, unless the original creator has agreed to it beforehand. Just my two cents. I think you would feel a lot more satisfied if you worked on your own original project instead of fanworks. |
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Post by Vampula on Aug 13, 2014 19:07:07 GMT -5
Honestly, here's my advice.. If you're going to do art solely for want of feedback, you are going to constantly be disappointed. Feedback is totally great and it's always nice to have, but don't rely on it. There's always going to be folks who are better than you or get more comments than you, ignore all that. The only person you've got to compete with is yourself, so do art for the love of it whether the comments come or not! That aside, you've said you're not going to put the zelfs logo on your tshirt, but here you're clearly marketing it as a zelfs shirt and making it clear that it's of Moose's characters. They've already made clear that this goes against their policy, so you're risking that if you decide to go through with this. The zelf fandom is nowhere near as large as say, MLP, so it's going to be a lot easier for them to zero in on you if they choose to come down with a Cease & Desist. Just a warning. I never said I was going to stop doing art or I hated my art. Just that I wasn't going to post on my Devi page anymore because I don't see the point if noones commenting or really just chatting with me. Mostly disappointed in the friends who asked me to come back and they completely blew me off. But if you get no feedback it does suck.i want to know what I can improve on and what I'm doing good.i want to be a successful comic book artist so if no one cares it kinda smarts.And that's pretty much gone on for 3 years. I'm going to do more investigating before I'd actually sell the shirt.just wanted to see if anyone was actually interested first. It's not like I'm drawing they're zelfs. My designs are a lot different to theirs. |
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Post by Vampula on Aug 13, 2014 19:09:59 GMT -5
Honestly, here's my advice.. If you're going to do art solely for want of feedback, you are going to constantly be disappointed. Feedback is totally great and it's always nice to have, but don't rely on it. There's always going to be folks who are better than you or get more comments than you, ignore all that. The only person you've got to compete with is yourself, so do art for the love of it whether the comments come or not! That aside, you've said you're not going to put the zelfs logo on your tshirt, but here you're clearly marketing it as a zelfs shirt and making it clear that it's of Moose's characters. They've already made clear that this goes against their policy, so you're risking that if you decide to go through with this. The zelf fandom is nowhere near as large as say, MLP, so it's going to be a lot easier for them to zero in on you if they choose to come down with a Cease & Desist. Just a warning. I agree with everything Pega Sue has said, she said it all very well. *nod* I'm a writer of children's books, and I know from experience that making any kind of art in the hopes of getting feedback is just going to disappoint you. You should draw when YOU feel like you want to produce art, not because you think people will comment on it or because someone is asking you for it. I also agree that paying money for things with copyrighted characters on it isn't a good thing to do. Yes an individual character (like Spooky) is your creation, but the Zelfs themselves are copyright of Moose Inc. It's not fair to take something that someone else has created and charge money for it, unless the original creator has agreed to it beforehand. Just my two cents. I think you would feel a lot more satisfied if you worked on your own original project instead of fanworks. My human zelfs are technically my characters because I designed them. I'm not going to draw zelf zelfs. Besides drawing human zelfs original works are all I work on,... |
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Post by Dragonflitter on Aug 13, 2014 19:12:32 GMT -5
I think a lot of comic book artists have to actually have their comic book out there for a while before they get a following. In my experience, anyway. I follow a lot of web comics and I have noticed that when they first start out, there have almost no comments at all posted on their comic pages. But then if they keep at it and consistently update, then people start getting excited about the story and start commenting and that's how a fan following is developed. It takes dedication and time. Like me and Pega said before, we know you're not drawing their Zelfs but you're still drawing Zelfs, which is a copyrighted infringement. It's not the designs of the Zelf characters that is the only issue, it's also the concept itself. A 'Zelf' is their idea, they came up with it and copyrighted it. |
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Post by Dragonflitter on Aug 13, 2014 19:14:57 GMT -5
One idea you might consider is to take your ideas for 'human Zelfs' and use that as a baseboard for your own story. Instead of human Zelfs, maybe you make up a fantasy world that has a race of elf-like or troll-like creatures that are based on the inspiration you got when you drew your Zelf fanart. |
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Post by Vampula on Aug 13, 2014 19:16:45 GMT -5
@ dragon flitter I think drawing spooky the zelf on a shirt is more likely to get me in trouble than my human zelfs.
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Post by Vampula on Aug 13, 2014 19:26:04 GMT -5
One idea you might consider is to take your ideas for 'human Zelfs' and use that as a baseboard for your own story. Instead of human Zelfs, maybe you make up a fantasy world that has a race of elf-like or troll-like creatures that are based on the inspiration you got when you drew your Zelf fanart. :sigh: I don't really look at them as zelf characters. They're my characters they even have different names. Vampula-chichi Pega-Chloe Garney-quinn Webina-Tatiana Snap-Charlie Berchy-Hayden Noodles-Finn Sealia-Juliet Tyfoon-larenzo Dolly-melody Manny-rocko I've said in a previous thread that they ether would get they're own story or be put into another one of my projects.but I haven't focused on it yet cause I'm working on a project right now. Every character I make is eventually put into one of my projects. I'm not trying to rip anyone off. My designs were inspired by zelfs I didn't just make a few changes. I really care for my designs and I have my own stories for them. I dout if I told ppl they have different names they'd use them,.. |
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Post by Princess Crystella on Aug 13, 2014 19:26:41 GMT -5
I think a lot of comic book artists have to actually have their comic book out there for a while before they get a following. In my experience, anyway. I follow a lot of web comics and I have noticed that when they first start out, there have almost no comments at all posted on their comic pages. But then if they keep at it and consistently update, then people start getting excited about the story and start commenting and that's how a fan following is developed. It takes dedication and time. Like me and Pega said before, we know you're not drawing their Zelfs but you're still drawing Zelfs, which is a copyrighted infringement. It's not the designs of the Zelf characters that is the only issue, it's also the concept itself. A 'Zelf' is their idea, they came up with it and copyrighted it. Agreed! I did a webcomic for about 7 years before I put it in temporary hiatus (kids, health issues, yadda yadda). It's true, you get a following gradually. In my case it was word of mouth that brought readers in, as well as networking with fellow artists. There are some downsides to doing a webcomic; I did have a couple stalkers and the attention could be embarrassing, at least for me. But I really love doing sequential art and I'm looking forward to getting back to it when my kids are older and my disease is in remission, etc. |
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Post by Vampula on Aug 13, 2014 19:39:37 GMT -5
I think a lot of comic book artists have to actually have their comic book out there for a while before they get a following. In my experience, anyway. I follow a lot of web comics and I have noticed that when they first start out, there have almost no comments at all posted on their comic pages. But then if they keep at it and consistently update, then people start getting excited about the story and start commenting and that's how a fan following is developed. It takes dedication and time. Like me and Pega said before, we know you're not drawing their Zelfs but you're still drawing Zelfs, which is a copyrighted infringement. It's not the designs of the Zelf characters that is the only issue, it's also the concept itself. A 'Zelf' is their idea, they came up with it and copyrighted it. Â Agreed! I did a webcomic for about 7 years before I put it in temporary hiatus (kids, health issues, yadda yadda). It's true, you get a following gradually. In my case it was word of mouth that brought readers in, as well as networking with fellow artists. There are some downsides to doing a webcomic; I did have a couple stalkers and the attention could be embarrassing, at least for me. But I really love doing sequential art and I'm looking forward to getting back to it when my kids are older and my disease is in remission, etc. Â I kinda feel like you guys are assuming things of me before knowing the facts about me. I haven't published a comic yet. I was on devianart for 11 years (or more) I had left the site to work on other things (my comic)and was asked to come back. So for about 3 years when I returned,I haven't had much contact with ppl thro it in which I had before. It wasn't about just posting art, it was about collabing and making friends and just having a good time. When I heard I was missed I came back to silence. And it was depressing knowing how much fun I had, the friends I collated with. I tried to connect with other ppl but it just wasn't happening. It got boring....It's a very long story and I rather not explain it to make a point. It wasn't about getting popular. |
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Post by Princess Crystella on Aug 13, 2014 19:50:40 GMT -5
We weren't trying to assume anything, dragonflitter and I were just offering our experiences. I think we just thought they were relevant and would be helpful. Best of luck to you.
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Post by Galexia on Aug 13, 2014 20:05:07 GMT -5
Hey Vampula, while I think your ideas are great, I don't think you will sell the t-shirts you want to sell with anthro-Zelfs as your designs, because you're only reaching such a small demographic.
In one post you offer Zelf anthro t-shirts, and then another you say they're not Zelfs but your own characters, inspired by Zelfs? So which is it, because like most consumers I have I relate to something before I purchase it, especially clothing. Am I connecting with the Zelfs? Yes, but I don't care for them in anthro version, so I will most likely not buy the t-shirt. Do I connect with your characters? No, because I know nothing about them!
On the other hand using your own art would be a fantastic idea. You have such a great style and I think they would look great on some t-shirts but maybe not characters and more like art?
I'd definitely loved to help you with some designs, and they could even be Zelf-inspired without screaming "copyright infringement".
Why not try a bright green t-shirt with darker green vines and leaves going up one of the sides for Elfa?
A red shirt with nine tails on the back for Kitsu?
These ideas can be Zelf inspired without being too copycat-ish!
I also bet anyone else on this forum would love to collab with you, ya just gotta ask!
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Post by Vampula on Aug 13, 2014 20:08:53 GMT -5
We weren't trying to assume anything, dragonflitter and I were just offering our experiences. I think we just thought they were relevant and would be helpful. Best of luck to you. I think you guys just got the wrong idea about me and feedback... With the copyright stuff, nothing you guys said really made any sense to me Since I do have an alternative worl for my "human zelfs" but I wouldn't see the point in sharing that as I'm not doing anything with it yet cause I'm working with something else.but I have shared tidbits of ideas here and there. Ppl would just continue to call them by they're zelf names. I don't see how id be less likely to be sued if I made that known. I also wasn't trying to rip off or make an easy buck.  I just thought it be nice to have a tshirt of them for myself and make it avalible for others who appreciate my design. I'm sure if moose made human zelfs they'd look alto different and "kid friendly" I'm not trying to make a buck off of moose's back by using they're brand name. I would like to think my designs are what would. |
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Post by Vampula on Aug 13, 2014 20:12:27 GMT -5
Hey Vampula, while I think your ideas are great, I don't think you will sell the t-shirts you want to sell with anthro-Zelfs as your designs, because you're only reaching such a small demographic. In one post you offer Zelf anthro t-shirts, and then another you say they're not Zelfs but your own characters, inspired by Zelfs? So which is it, because like most consumers I have I relate to something before I purchase it, especially clothing. Am I connecting with the Zelfs? Yes, but I don't care for them in anthro version, so I will most likely not buy the t-shirt. Do I connect with your characters? No, because I know nothing about them! On the other hand using your own art would be a fantastic idea. You have such a great style and I think they would look great on some t-shirts but maybe not characters and more like art? I'd definitely loved to help you with some designs, and they could even be Zelf-inspired without screaming "copyright infringement". Why not try a bright green t-shirt with darker green vines and leaves going up one of the sides for Elfa? A red shirt with nine tails on the back for Kitsu? These ideas can be Zelf inspired without being too copycat-ish! I also bet anyone else on this forum would love to collab with you, ya just gotta ask! I don't understand how a zelf body tshirt is less likely to be copyrightish. That seems more so to me. |
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Post by Galexia on Aug 13, 2014 20:19:25 GMT -5
How?
With my idea you're taking ideas from it? Snowflakes for Snao Jack, Leaves for Elfa, Cupcakes for Frostette those are things that can't be copywritten.
A character design on the other hand can.
No one thinks or is saying you are trying to make a quick buck off Moose so I'm not too sure why you're saying that?
Were trying to help you and give you constructive criticism so you can make it work because we want to see you succeed!
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Post by Galexia on Aug 13, 2014 20:21:38 GMT -5
We weren't trying to assume anything, dragonflitter and I were just offering our experiences. I think we just thought they were relevant and would be helpful. Best of luck to you. I think you guys just got the wrong idea about me and feedback... With the copyright stuff, nothing you guys said really made any sense to me Since I do have an alternative worl for my "human zelfs" but I wouldn't see the point in sharing that as I'm not doing anything with it yet cause I'm working with something else.but I have shared tidbits of ideas here and there. Ppl would just continue to call them by they're zelf names. I don't see how id be less likely to be sued if I made that known. I also wasn't trying to rip off or make an easy buck. I just thought it be nice to have a tshirt of them for myself and make it avalible for others who appreciate my design. I'm sure if moose made human zelfs they'd look alto different and "kid friendly" I'm not trying to make a buck off of moose's back by using they're brand name. I would like to think my designs are what would. You keep saying the word "design" Vampula. Your anthro Zelfs are technically in your art style but they are not your designs. You have taken Moose's character designs and given them you own art style. |
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Post by Vampula on Aug 13, 2014 20:22:08 GMT -5
How? With my idea you're taking ideas from it? Snowflakes for Snao Jack, Leaves for Elfa, Cupcakes for Frostette those are things that can't be copywritten. A character design on the other hand cannot. No one thinks or is saying you are trying to make a quick buck off Moose so I'm not too sure why you're saying that? Were trying to help you and give you constructive criticism so you can make it work because we want to see you succeed! I'm just trying to understand is all. Because if those things can't be copyrighted how can my characters cause me to get sued. They only have the same color scheme. They're literally 2 different characters. Like I said I'm just trying to get where u guys are coming from. |
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Post by Vampula on Aug 13, 2014 20:24:02 GMT -5
I think you guys just got the wrong idea about me and feedback... With the copyright stuff, nothing you guys said really made any sense to me Since I do have an alternative worl for my "human zelfs" but I wouldn't see the point in sharing that as I'm not doing anything with it yet cause I'm working with something else.but I have shared tidbits of ideas here and there. Ppl would just continue to call them by they're zelf names. I don't see how id be less likely to be sued if I made that known. I also wasn't trying to rip off or make an easy buck. I just thought it be nice to have a tshirt of them for myself and make it avalible for others who appreciate my design. I'm sure if moose made human zelfs they'd look alto different and "kid friendly" I'm not trying to make a buck off of moose's back by using they're brand name. I would like to think my designs are what would. You keep saying the word "design" Vampula. Your anthro Zelfs are technically in your art style but they are not your designs. You have taken Moose's character designs and given them you own art style. See this is where you guys are loosing me. You just said colors and symbols can't be copyrighted XD |
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Post by Vampula on Aug 13, 2014 20:27:18 GMT -5
I'm sorry webina but you can't tell me they're not my designs because they are. A zelf and a human are way different. I put a lot into those designs for you to tell me they are not. That I have to say I don't agree with. I've designed characters from inspiration from random items are you telling me they're technically not mine?
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Post by Violet on Aug 13, 2014 20:38:57 GMT -5
Your anthro Zelfs look like amazing floppy-eared elf people. I love how they look! Maybe you could do a shirt with those anthro Zelfs on it, but not make them obviously Birchy, or obviously Lunanne, or obviously *fill in the blank*. Maybe that would work. I think they'd look amazing on a shirt. For example, you could use their faces, but create a dryad lady with cascading green hair and leaves entwined around her legs and arms. No one owns the copyright to a dryad. It's mythology. |
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Post by Galexia on Aug 13, 2014 20:39:10 GMT -5
How? With my idea you're taking ideas from it? Snowflakes for Snao Jack, Leaves for Elfa, Cupcakes for Frostette those are things that can't be copywritten. A character design on the other hand cannot. No one thinks or is saying you are trying to make a quick buck off Moose so I'm not too sure why you're saying that? Were trying to help you and give you constructive criticism so you can make it work because we want to see you succeed! I'm just trying to understand is all. Because if those things can't be copyrighted how can my characters cause me to get sued. They only have the same color scheme. They're literally 2 different characters. Like I said I'm just trying to get where u guys are coming from. Honey because this is TyFoon  This is Manny and Dolly  And this is Noodles and Sealia  If Moose gets wind that you are using their character's designs to sell their t-shirts they will send you a cease and deciist. You're offering t-shirts to us with Zelf characters whether human or not. Whether your names or Moose's. They are Moose's character designs. Now if you draw a seahorse shirt, there's nothing they can do about it. A thunderstorm shirt? nothing they can do A moth shirt? Nothing they can do. A moose shirt? Probably wouldn't be used by Moose but possibly by Abercrombi I'm sorry you've put so much effort into something you really can't work with but with all artists you create something new and exciting and work with that! |
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Post by Galexia on Aug 13, 2014 20:42:02 GMT -5
I'm sorry webina but you can't tell me they're not my designs because they are. A zelf and a human are way different. I put a lot into those designs for you to tell me they are not. That I have to say I don't agree with. I've designed characters from inspiration from random items are you telling me they're technically not mine? Vampula, again I apologize but, sweetheart, they are not your designs. They are Moose toys designs you have used to create your own art. |
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Post by Vampula on Aug 13, 2014 20:47:24 GMT -5
@webina sorry it still doesn't make sense to me. They're are hundreds of human characters that look like they're all carbon copies of eachother and no one gets sued. Like I said before I'll say it again.
I just asked if anyone was interested. I was fully going to put in the work to make sure it was ok.
And they are my designs wether you think they are or not. Just because I took color and tattos from them doesn't mean I didn't design them.
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I really didn't mean to make my post sound so negative! 
I just thought it be nice to have a tshirt of them for myself and make it avalible for others who appreciate my design. I'm sure if moose made human zelfs they'd look alto different and "kid friendly" I'm not trying to make a buck off of moose's back by using they're brand name. I would like to think my designs are what would.
